Monday, 3 March 2025

Italy: Trieste?

Every now and then I get the feeling I'd like to return to certain places which had made an impression on me, and see what I think of them now.   In one of these periods of musing the other day I wondered about returning to Trieste, that strange Austrian-style corner of Italy, which doesn't feel like Italy at all.   

What has stayed with me about Trieste was the strange atmosphere of the place, described by one of its chroniclers, Jan Morris, as  "The Capital of Nowhere."   It was once the third largest town in the Austro-Hungarian Empire, and it is still a big city full of important buildings,  and yet the mood in the city was  curiously provincial and remote.    People there speak Italian, but when I was there the atmosphere stirred ancient memories of my childhood trips to Austria, which  (on my occasional visits from Germany) exuded an air of faded grandeur that strongly resembled Germany but didn't actually feel like it at all.   

The food certainly seemed more Germanic than Italian. There were quite a few humble little cafes, known as "Buffets" around the place, which were notable for selling almost nothing but meat and meat products, along with pretty good beer. 


Not that the picture above was taken in a Buffet.  No, that was home made produce in an Osteria, a kind of seasonal artisan farm restaurant to be found in the wild Carso countryside which overlooks the city.  They only open during certain times and you can find them by seeing the leafy branch they hang on their front door.    I don't really know anywhere other than Trieste which has anything similar,  nor did I find out how the places make a living if they are not open all the time. 

And by the way, what about these direction signs I snapped in the Carso? What language are they in? 

To reach the Carso it is best to take the Opicina Tramway, whose elderly trams transform themselves into cog railways halfway up a suburban hill, and continue on a steep hill climb.    Of course all the passengers take it for granted, but I found it a most peculiar experience. 

So I'd love to revisit Trieste, but I need more of a reason to go than things I have already noticed.    I guess I am afraid that in the years I have been away, Trieste might have changed into something more ordinary than it was, and if I want to experience that slightly other worldly atmosphere again, I should go soon.  Or I might be too late already.  I know that the large cruise liners which used to loom over Venice now often call there, and this giant influx of tourists has been followed by the inevitable growth of places selling tourist tat to the hordes.  What I read of Trieste now sounds far more slick than it was, with the kind of cool bars and foodie destinations you find everywhere from Amsterdam to New Zealand to Rome.  

Of course, the big sights of the city are still there:  the handsome old cathedral, and the unutterably romantic Miramar, overlooking the sea....here is the Miramar terrace on a stormy afternoon with flashes of sun.....


And the Castello di Duino is still going strong. It's one of the homes of the Thurn und Taxis aristocratic dynasty, some of whom were serving in the gift shop when I was there - I wonder if they still do. Duino overlooks the Gulf of Trieste, which was a luminous greenish blue when I visited, against which the Italian style tiled roofs flared like sunshine.   Here is a photo I took  among the rooftops, towards the outline of Croatia in the stormy distance.  

  
,... which gets me wondering what Croatia is like.   Perhaps I should go to Croatia instead. .....?

 

16 comments:

  1. Ruminating. You could flip a coin. Or visit them all.

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  2. We can go back, but it seems it's never to quite the same place.

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  3. Croatia has risen in popularity enormously over the past 5-10 years; a great many people I know from work or in my circle of friends/acquaintances have been going there, and I guess it becoming more expensive and touristy by the minute, but that doesn't take away its natural beauty.
    The second language on the signs you were wondering about is most likely Croatian, just like in the area of Nice/Nizza, road signs are often in both French and Italian as well as Provencal, as is often the case in border regions.
    Here in Germany, we have a similar tradition of places offering food only at certain times a year: A broomstick serves as a sign that they are open, and since broom is "Besen" in Germany, these places are called Besenwirtschaft here. For the rest of the year, these places are usually working farms, vineyards, orchards or all of it combined.
    The Miramar picture is wonderful!

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  4. Do I detect a bit of wanderlust here? I don't blame you -- I'm wanting to wander while I can! Was it James Agee or Thomas Woolf who said "You can't go home again." Not that Trieste is home, but I know what you mean about the apprehension of visiting places you loved many years after, with tourist trade soaring, more tat, less charm, perhaps. (Maybe a google walk can tell you a little something.) Especially when you've already seen so many of the lovely things like the castle and Miramar. And Croatia -- that sounds interesting too. So many choices. You are fortunate to be relatively close to such places and able to go with a bit more ease than having to cross the pond. I love the photos, the info. A spot of which I knew nothing and now, a little more.

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  5. PS: I have just looked it up - Zgonik is the Slovene name for Sgonico, and Sgonegg the German one.

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  6. Jenny and I often thought of visiting Trieste but somehow never did. It's a shame if those monstrous cruise liners and its passengers are now swamping the city. The sea is a wonderful blue indeed. And it looks like the locals can't get enough meat!
    Those signs (Carsiana, Sgonico, Skerk) are all Italian place names.

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  7. Oh, so lovely! My sister's brother -in-law married a girl from Croatia and she has been there for a visit. It looks so beautiful.

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  8. No matter where you go, Trieste or Croatia, I know you will enjoy a lovely adventure and then share it here, which would make it lovely for us, too.

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  9. Trieste does sound like a lovely visit, Jenny, at least as you remember it and hopefully if you ever return you will find many of the same places to enjoy and, of course, the food. I can understand your comments about tourists as that's what we have become in the past few years making up for the years when travel wasn't possible and for those in which we just didn't do it. So far, we have a few places we would like to revisit, but so many others we haven't even seen once...yet.

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  10. This sounds like great places. The photos are lovely especially the one looking over the rooftop. Thank you for stopping by my blog.

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  11. The world is constantly changing--little by little. I expect it would be different going today when you haven't been someplace for many years no matter where it is, actually. ;)

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  12. I'm still wondering about those signs. If tourist boats are arriving then tat will abound and you will have to go far into the area to find the real nation. Croatia, friends of the nazis in the war, produce great footballers, and some of those coastal towns look well worth a visit. Lots of ancient history there also. Meat & beer for lunch, sounds OK to me...

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  13. How beautiful and interesting Jenny. I had to look on a map to see where Trieste sits, and it is indeed in a funny little corner of Italy. The Miramar Terrace picture is gorgeous, and so inviting. The tourist ships don't sound so appealing (I saw them in Venice, right out of scale). Hoping you go there, and Croatia too if you fancy, and then perhaps we will read about it too. Lovely post.

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  14. Relatively Retiring.7 March 2025 at 18:18

    Ever since reading Jan Morris' haunting description of Trieste I have wanted to visit. Very (very) probably, at this age and stage of life it's wiser to read about it, rather than attempt to travel. Many thanks for your blog posting.

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  15. Croatia has certainly gained in popularity in recent years ... eldest grandson is looking forward to a holiday there later this year.
    Wherever you travel I wish you safe and happy ones.

    All the best Jan

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  16. I've long wanted to visit Trieste but your description of the Opicina Tramway has sold me, and Stephen will love the idea of meat, meat and more meat.

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